Beiter nocks on ACE arrows


From: Wazir <wazir@wazland.demon.co.uk> Subject: Beiter nocks on ACE arrows Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 00:15:17 GMT Anyone currently using Beiter nocks on Easton A/C/E arrows? I was using this nock for a while and found that my arrow shafts seem to split everytime another arrow hits the nock. If anyone else had the same problem or know anything about this please advice. I am back to using Easton nocks now. I split two of my nocks tonight and my arrows survived the impact for another day. Beiter nocks seem to be hollow and when hit has the tendency to split along the whole of the nock up to the insert. This will in my experient crack the end of the shaft and there goes another arrow. It is making things a bit too expensive! W.C. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angus@harlqn.co.uk (Angus Duggan) Subject: Re: Beiter nocks on ACE arrows Date: Thu, 23 Nov 1995 17:32:43 GMT In article <816999317.16112@wazland.demon.co.uk> Wazir <wazir@wazland.demon.co.uk> writes: > >Anyone currently using Beiter nocks on Easton A/C/E arrows? I was Not anymore... >using this nock for a while and found that my arrow shafts seem to >split everytime another arrow hits the nock. If anyone else had the Guess why! > Beiter nocks seem to be hollow and when hit has the tendency to >split along the whole of the nock up to the insert. This will in my >experient crack the end of the shaft and there goes another arrow. >It is making things a bit too expensive! I have heard, but have no experience of it, that the new "heavy" Beiters don't split in the same ways. The light Beiters do tend to chip or crack the back of the arrow when struck. Angus Duggan ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: melin@cm5cofis.gmd.de (Stephan Melin) Subject: Re: Beiter nocks on ACE arrows and a few observations... Date: 26 Nov 1995 22:20:29 GMT Reply-To: melin@hlrz24.hlrz.kfa-juelich.de In article <816999317.16112@wazland.demon.co.uk>, Wazir <wazir@wazland.demon.co.uk> writes: |> Anyone currently using Beiter nocks on Easton A/C/E arrows? I was |> using this nock for a while and found that my arrow shafts seem to |> split everytime another arrow hits the nock. If anyone else had the |> same problem or know anything about this please advice. I am back to |> using Easton nocks now. I split two of my nocks tonight and my arrows |> survived the impact for another day. |> Beiter nocks seem to be hollow and when hit has the tendency to |> split along the whole of the nock up to the insert. This will in my |> experient crack the end of the shaft and there goes another arrow. |> It is making things a bit too expensive! I am using them at the moment, but didn't encounter any problem so far. However I have hit my own nocks only a couple of times so far... (But that is due to the fact that I am a _REAL_ _CRAP_ _SHOT_ (TM) at the moment: however 443 at an indoor tournament this saturday is still more than the 391 three weeks ago ...) But slightly off topic: The tournament was the one at Bingen (which is _THE_ german indoor tournament), the sunday usally is reserved for the "creme de la creme" of european archers - you either get invited or qualify on saturday. I think almost the complete Dutch, Belgium and Swiss national teams were there, several top archers from Luxemburg, Ukraine, Belarussia - too bad the team from Moldavia had problems getting their visas right on time (otherwise Natalia Valeva, the current indoor and outdoor world champion would have been there too). But at least Barbara Mensing, second in the FITA outdoor WC this year was there, and a lot of the other German top archers. In case I missed to name someone - sorry... "Luckily" I shot very badly on saturday, so I had the opportunity to watch and hopefully learn something today (I live not too far away from Bingen)... Now what are the secrets of those shooting at these levels? - Stable bow arm (all of them) and consistent release (many of them). The whole process of drawing until the release is one fluent motion. I will write more when I have analyzed the video tape - I almost taped the whole tournament. 60 arrows qualification (gents: Peter Daman 585, ladies: Barbara Mensing 580) and 48 arrows in the finals... Best regards, good shooting and all to the gold Stephan Melin ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: force10ten@aol.com (Force10Ten) Subject: Re: Beiter nocks on ACE arrows Date: 26 Nov 1995 17:47:12 -0500 Angus Duggan recently wrote: >I have heard, but have no experience of it, that the new "heavy" Beiters don't >split in the same ways. The light Beiters do tend to chip or crack the back of >the arrow when struck. Rick McKinney and a few of my fellow archers at the Olympic Training Center here in San Diego have used the 'heavy' Beiters for several months and in our experience there isn't much difference in damage tolerance between the 'heavy' and normal Beiter Nock. I don't think Rick has been seeing a big difference either. The main advantage of the 'heavy' Beiter is that is is a bit stiffer. This addresses the main complaint about the Beiter nock's shooting characteristics among some US and Korean shooters, namely, it is considered a bit flexible. The 'heavy' configuration also makes the arrow shoot a tiny bit stiffer (dynamic spine) because of the extra couple of grains at the back of the arrow shaft. George Tekmitchov ------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: angus@harlqn.co.uk (Angus Duggan) Subject: Re: Beiter nocks on ACE arrows Date: Mon, 4 Dec 1995 11:47:34 GMT In article <49nk8f$q18@newsbf02.news.aol.com> force10ten@aol.com (Force10Ten) writes: >One thing to remember though- an asymetric nock like a Beiter requires a >symmetric adapter in a fletching jig to achieve a 120 degree offset of >vanes. Otherwise, the vane placement will not be 120 x 3. This is not >an issue with a symmetric nock like the Bjorn or the G nock. Many people >who shoot Beiter nocks take care of this by changing to a symmetric nock >for fletching and back to the Beiter for shooting. On the other hand, I Beiter make a nock adaptor for this purpose; the nock clips into it, and it provides a symmetric slot to put in the fletching jig. Angus Duggan

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