Manufacturers using Hoyt Recurve limb fit

From: Wazir Choong <wazir@wazland.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Manufacturers using Hoyt Recurve limb fit

With all the discussions on this newsgroup about handles that can
take limbs from other manufacturers, I got a question about the Hoyt
limb fits.

Manufacturers such as PSE, Carbofast, Spigarelli and of course Hoyt
make risers to take limbs with this fit. I am not sure when Hoyt first
made its limb with this "dove tail" fit but I am sure it was not
recently. Let say if someone at Hoyt or somewhere one day realized
that by making the limb just a bit wider or thicker or something, will
increase the performance of the bow. Will they change to this new
spec or just stay with the old? Especially since there are so many
people out there who probably bought the bow with upgrade in mind.
Will they change it for the sake of the sport or to satisfy their
old customers - buy limbs with the Hoyt Dove Tail fit and you can use
it on many of the risers available in the market?

I am not saying that the Hoyt limbs are crap compared to others.
The Carbon foam technology will not stay on top forever. There may be
a new material out there that will outperform the carbon foam but can
only be used if the limb is made slightly wider or something. When
manufacturers such as Hoyt introduce this new material (after all we
are suckers for new technology) will they use the optimum configuration
or stay with the old to stafisfy us, the "faithful" 'ole customers?
After all, anyone ever seen the technical specification of the limbs
been explained in any literature?

Just a thought!!

Wazir..

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From: jdickson@festival.ed.ac.uk (John Dickson)
Subject: Re: Manufacturers using Hoyt Recurve limb fit

Wazir Choong <wazir@wazland.demon.co.uk> writes:

<Snip Hoyt limb>

> I am not saying that the Hoyt limbs are crap compared to others.
>The Carbon foam technology will not stay on top forever. There may be
>a new material out there that will outperform the carbon foam but can
>only be used if the limb is made slightly wider or something. When
>manufacturers such as Hoyt introduce this new material (after all we
>are suckers for new technology) will they use the optimum configuration
>or stay with the old to stafisfy us, the "faithful" 'ole customers?

From memory I'd say the TD4 Goldmedalist came out in the early 80's, so
yeah it's getting long in the tooth. However, it's pretty effective,
although a bit sloppy in some cases, so why change it.

As far as the introduction of new materials it is unlikely that any
suitable material would need to be wider at the connection with the
handle. Most of the bows on the market seem to be about the same
thickness here. The Eolla noticeably tapers going in to the limb pocket.
So, if they need to make the limbs wider they just do it outside the
limb pocket.

If the limb requires anything more drastic that this then it's more
likely to require a completely different handle anyway, so the problem
doesn't arise.

Nothing lasts for ever and I think we can be thankful that most
manufacturers are now making there bow parts interchangeable with the
previous model eg Hoyt, Yamaha, Stylist when it's possible.

Lastly, you're only a "faithful ole Hoyt customer" if you buy a Hoyt
handle and Hoyt limbs ;-) "If everybody else copies our limb pocket
design it's not our fault if we change it..."

This is all opinionated rubbish of course.


John Dickson,(aka Stretch)

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From: TKTG70A@prodigy.com (Don Branson)
Subject: Re: Manufacturers using Hoyt Recurve limb fit
Date: 16 Dec 1995 18:08:33 GMT

>suitable material would need to be wider at the connection with the
>handle. Most of the bows on the market seem to be about the same
>thickness here. The Eolla noticeably tapers going in to the limb pocket.

>So, if they need to make the limbs wider they just do it outside the
>limb pocket.

>If the limb requires anything more drastic that this then it's more
>likely to require a completely different handle anyway, so the problem
>doesn't arise.

>Nothing lasts for ever and I think we can be thankful that most
>manufacturers are now making there bow parts interchangeable with the
>previous model eg Hoyt, Yamaha, Stylist when it's possible.

>Lastly, you're only a "faithful ole Hoyt customer" if you buy a Hoyt
>handle and Hoyt limbs ;-) "If everybody else copies our limb pocket
>design it's not our fault if we change it..."

>This is all opinionated rubbish of course.

> John

Remember who made the limbs for Hoyt-USA before they moved the plant.
Earl Hoyt now has his own machined riser bow called the Conquest. The
limbs interchange with the Radian and some archer are using that
combination. Although the Conquest is only Carbon/Wood the quality of
workmanship and detail is Earl Hoyt throughout. You will see many top US
shooters using this bow. Has anyone over there tried it yet?

Don Branson


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